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[RochesterRob]

31 minutes ago, devnull said:

I suspect the troops will be from the Inner Party.

 

Sending troops from the serf class presents the risk of public defection or worse, importing foreign ideas into Utopia

  Going by pictures of what I would presume are top aides the people shown look like they weigh 85-90 pounds each and get less than 1000 calories per day.  Lil Kim is the only fat boy in all of North Korea.  That aside Kim would see the value of keeping most of the elite troops at home to maintain order.

Edited June 28 by RochesterRob

[Deranged Rhino]

He knows what's about to happen... 

 

 

[RochesterRob]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

He knows what's about to happen... 

 

 

  I'm sure that the powers behind Biden have a Plan B to keep the Ukraine War kickbacks coming.  Unfortunately.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

31 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  I'm sure that the powers behind Biden have a Plan B to keep the Ukraine War kickbacks coming.  Unfortunately.

 

The plan is: Putin invades Ukraine again in 2029.

 

Putin's been invading his neighbors for 25 years.  Any peace deal with Ukraine is only a temporary break in hostilities.

[RochesterRob]

9 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

The plan is: Putin invades Ukraine again in 2029.

 

Putin's been invading his neighbors for 25 years.  Any peace deal with Ukraine is only a temporary break in hostilities.

  The problem with that is as follows.  Does Putin make it to 2029?  Father Time is undefeated and guys running around saying that they will live for 120 years get the least amount of mercy from Father Time.  Probably not talked about in the mainstream but is being talked about among the US agriculture community is increasing cooperation in terms of Russia being a food source for China.  Ukraine would be the ultimate prize for Russia as it has deep black fertile topsoil 3X the size of the US Cornbelt.  It's a big step for Russia and China given their 20th Century relationship but there seems to be more desire in firming up a BRICS world community.  A large grain belt would put Russia squarely on top of the pecking order for that community.  Lastly, Ukraine would be a consolation prize to Putin in that he will never be fully able to reconstitute the old USSR in terms of territories controlled.

[Deranged Rhino]

This &#%$ing guy - if he's on your team, you should really re-think your position. 

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

This &#%$ing guy - if he's on your team, you should really re-think your position. 

 

 

 

This ass was the Director of European Affairs on the NSC under Obama, and doesn't know when the Russo-Ukraine war started? 

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

This ass was the Director of European Affairs on the NSC under Obama, and doesn't know when the Russo-Ukraine war started? 

 

He knows it really started in 2014 (ducks and runs) - and just let it slip because he's a low IQ hack.

[Cinga]

Pravda which is Russian news is reporting that Zelensky is working toward a peace deal by the end of the year. Is he seeing the writing on thew wall following the debate?

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/159875-zelensky_plan_war_end/

 

Quote

"I am confident that we will resolve these issues. At least we will prepare a detailed plan. It will be ready soon. We will also work through all other points of the "peace formula” and prepare a comprehensive plan that will be presented to our partners for consideration. It is very important for us to show a plan to end the war that most countries of the world will support. This is the diplomatic path we are working on. Besides, as I already said, not everything depends on us,” Zelensky said.

 

Notice how the plan will be presented to his partners?
 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Again, now he's openly admitting what people who paid attention in 2014 knew all along. We overthrew the government in Kiev... 

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Again, now he's openly admitting what people who paid attention in 2014 knew all along. We overthrew the government in Kiev... 

 

 

 

The guy who was on the NSC and responsible for this region of the world in 2014 is effectively taking responsibility for starting the war...then blaming the president he actively and publicly hamstrung for not ending it? 

 

It's too bad spouting off lies like this isn't illegal.  We'll just have to resort to giving this dipshit a serious beating instead.

[Billsandhorns]

2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

The guy who was on the NSC and responsible for this region of the world in 2014 is effectively taking responsibility for starting the war...then blaming the president he actively and publicly hamstrung for not ending it? 

 

It's too bad spouting off lies like this isn't illegal.  We'll just have to resort to giving this dipshit a serious beating instead.

I think he's running for Congress now too

[Nanker]

18 hours ago, Billsandhorns said:

I think he's running for Congress now too

Yes he is and if there is any justice in the world at all he will get the ever loving shit beat out of him as CTC suggested in the post above yours. 

[Cinga]

oh look, Zelensky's wife bought them a new car, isn't that nice? 

 

 

 

 

BTW, 4.5 MILLION Euros is about 4.8 MILLION dollars so I wonder where in a war torn country they came up with that kind of money?

Edited July 1 by Cinga

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

3 minutes ago, Cinga said:

oh look, Zelensky's wife bought them a new car, isn't that nice? 

 

 

 

 

BTW, 4.5 MILLION Euros is about 4.8 MILLION dollars so I wonder where in a war torn country they came up with that kind of money?

 

Yeah, but it's an assault Turbillion, with a bump stock and chainsaw bayonet and everything.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

Interesting article.  

 

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2024/07/02/how-us-strike-curbs-for-ukraine-morphed-from-caveats-to-common-sense/

[Hedge]

From a group of countries that can't even follow their own funding rules (not to mention their leftist agenda in tearing down the major contributor, with it's tactic approval):

 

""Ukraine will be told it is currently too corrupt to join Nato, in a major blow to Volodymyr Zelensky.

The alliance will request “additional steps” from Kyiv before membership talks progress, a senior official in the US State Department said.

The position will be set out in writing in the Nato communique to be signed at the alliance’s annual summit on July 9.

“We have to step back and applaud everything that Ukraine has done in the name of reforms over the last two-plus years,” the official told The Telegraph.

“As they continue to make those reforms, we want to commend them, we want to talk about additional steps that need to be taken, particularly in the area of anti-corruption. It is a priority for many of us around the table,” the source added."

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

17 minutes ago, Hedge said:

From a group of countries that can't even follow their own funding rules (not to mention their leftist agenda in tearing down the major contributor, with it's tactic approval):

 

""Ukraine will be told it is currently too corrupt to join Nato, in a major blow to Volodymyr Zelensky.

The alliance will request “additional steps” from Kyiv before membership talks progress, a senior official in the US State Department said.

The position will be set out in writing in the Nato communique to be signed at the alliance’s annual summit on July 9.

“We have to step back and applaud everything that Ukraine has done in the name of reforms over the last two-plus years,” the official told The Telegraph.

“As they continue to make those reforms, we want to commend them, we want to talk about additional steps that need to be taken, particularly in the area of anti-corruption. It is a priority for many of us around the table,” the source added."

 

Too corrupt to join NATO...but not so corrupt that NATO won't continue to give them billions in aid.  

 

Where is that supposed to make sense? 

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Too corrupt to join NATO...but not so corrupt that NATO won't continue to give them billions in aid.  

 

Where is that supposed to make sense? 

 

Well, yeah, by them not being in NATO the member nations get to choose their own levels of kickbacks and destinations for the kickbacks on the funding to the corrupt non-NATO nation.  Once they join NATO, the corrupt newly NATO minted nation gets a say in where the kickbacks go.  And, the powers that be can't be having THAT.