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devnull Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 7 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: Too corrupt to join NATO...but not so corrupt that NATO won't continue to give them billions in aid. Where is that supposed to make sense? Makes perfect sense Ukraine is NATO's laundromat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ann Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 See! Trump is a Russian stooge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 45 minutes ago, Ann said: Because the USIC has known all along the only thing the Domino Theory is good for is scaring the public into forgoing their basic reason and common sense. It's certainly no great geopolitical prognosticator - but it damn sure prints money for the establishment's war machine. Gee, if only there was some way to have known this before hand. Like, say, looking back honestly at the past 50 years of US/Soviet/Russian history (and not polemics). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because the USIC has known all along the only thing the Domino Theory is good for is scaring the public into forgoing their basic reason and common sense. It's certainly no great geopolitical prognosticator - but it damn sure prints money for the establishment's war machine. Gee, if only there was some way to have known this before hand. Like, say, looking back honestly at the past 50 years of US/Soviet/Russian history (and not polemics). It's not a domino theory when Putin himself says he has designs on the Baltics. It isn't even the domino theory if he doesn't. The domino theory was the idea that a communist takeover of a country would destabilize neighboring countries and make them more susceptible to communist takeover. It wasn't a theory that an aggressor nation would keep invading countries they wanted to annex. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: It's not a domino theory when Putin himself says he has designs on the Baltics. It isn't even the domino theory if he doesn't. The domino theory was the idea that a communist takeover of a country would destabilize neighboring countries and make them more susceptible to communist takeover. It wasn't a theory that an aggressor nation would keep invading countries they wanted to annex. Just like pro Palestinians, no one ever pays attention to what they actually say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 21 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: It's not a domino theory when Putin himself says he has designs on the Baltics. It isn't even the domino theory if he doesn't. The domino theory was the idea that a communist takeover of a country would destabilize neighboring countries and make them more susceptible to communist takeover. It wasn't a theory that an aggressor nation would keep invading countries they wanted to annex. And I suspect that rhetoric will continue until NATO finally relents and gives him those cushion states between Russia and NATO. Otherwise yes, he may end up taking them to establish that cushion himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: It's not a domino theory when Putin himself says he has designs on the Baltics. It isn't even the domino theory if he doesn't. The domino theory was the idea that a communist takeover of a country would destabilize neighboring countries and make them more susceptible to communist takeover. It wasn't a theory that an aggressor nation would keep invading countries they wanted to annex. You mean like when Putin invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya in the span of less than 10 years - without official approval from the People or Congress (at least constitutionally speaking)… oh wait. It makes it hard to claim the moral high ground on military aggression when we’ve been doing it as if we were on crack for the past 20+ years - not to make the world more stable, but to make it LESS stable so the powers that be could enhance their own power and line their pockets. The whole conflict - which we helped instigate - was never about “stopping Putin”. It was about our own NatSec State fearing for its own life. It’s not even debatable at this point with what we have seen and know now for a fact. Edited July 5 by Deranged Rhino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Answer: Ukraine is different - and what's happening there (from the West's POV) has nothing to do with stopping Putin and everything to do with protecting their own corruption. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Answer: Ukraine is different - and what's happening there (from the West's POV) has nothing to do with stopping Putin and everything to do with protecting their own corruption. Exactly. Ukraine is the money laundering kick-back vehicle that the Western Oligarchs are pumping and mining billions of dollars of graft-laden “aid” packages. Sweet new Bugatti Mr. & Mrs. Zeolinski! You snagged it for less than $5 million. Cheers! I hope you both die horribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 12 minutes ago, Nanker said: Exactly. Ukraine is the money laundering kick-back vehicle that the Western Oligarchs are pumping and mining billions of dollars of graft-laden “aid” packages. Sweet new Bugatti Mr. & Mrs. Zeolinski! You snagged it for less than $5 million. Cheers! I hope you both die horribly. You really believe that idiotic Bugatti story ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 13 hours ago, Nouseforaname said: You really believe that idiotic Bugatti story ? Of course I do. Just like Pierre Salinger - I saw it on the Internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Did You Know There is a NATO Summit Starting Next Tuesday ? DAVID STROM NATO. Remember NATO? It's that obscure alliance that supposedly exists to defend the security of the Western powers on European continent. There is a major war in which Russia--the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a slightly shaky government--you might be forgiven for thinking that the Biden Administration would be laser-focused on preparing for the NATO summit that begins in Washington on Tuesday. At least you could be forgiven for thinking that before the disastrous performance of the president in the debate with Donald Trump last Thursday. In this new reality, it is silly to think that anybody but a few obscure aides is making policy decisions in the White House. The fact that the president isn't engaged in preparations for this meeting now makes a lot of sense. Aside from showing up, wandering around, shaking hands with world leaders and imaginary friends, and reading words off a teleprompter (badly), he actually has no role to play in next week's meetings. I don't think it really has seeped into most people's minds that the real crisis right now is that there is no President of the United States and the world is still dangerous. People keep referring to U.S. leadership of the free world, but the truth is that the seat of power is empty. A few obscure aides are running things, and by all accounts, they are factotums loyal to Jill Biden. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/07/05/did-you-know-there-is-a-nato-summit-starting-next-tuesday-n3791409 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 7/6/2024 at 11:21 AM, B-Man said: Did You Know There is a NATO Summit Starting Next Tuesday ? DAVID STROM NATO. Remember NATO? It's that obscure alliance that supposedly exists to defend the security of the Western powers on European continent. There is a major war in which Russia--the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a slightly shaky government--you might be forgiven for thinking that the Biden Administration would be laser-focused on preparing for the NATO summit that begins in Washington on Tuesday. At least you could be forgiven for thinking that before the disastrous performance of the president in the debate with Donald Trump last Thursday. In this new reality, it is silly to think that anybody but a few obscure aides is making policy decisions in the White House. The fact that the president isn't engaged in preparations for this meeting now makes a lot of sense. Aside from showing up, wandering around, shaking hands with world leaders and imaginary friends, and reading words off a teleprompter (badly), he actually has no role to play in next week's meetings. I don't think it really has seeped into most people's minds that the real crisis right now is that there is no President of the United States and the world is still dangerous. People keep referring to U.S. leadership of the free world, but the truth is that the seat of power is empty. A few obscure aides are running things, and by all accounts, they are factotums loyal to Jill Biden. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/07/05/did-you-know-there-is-a-nato-summit-starting-next-tuesday-n3791409 No. The issue that hasn't gotten into most people's minds and is the TRUE crisis is that this didn't miraculously happen a week ago last Thursday. He's been this way a long time. And somebody has been running things. And none of us plebes have any idea who that is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Our lust for war and bleeding Putin made this possible. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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