4merper4mer Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 15 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: I like this, just because I'm amused by the idea that after 12 years and all the back-room deals to put Obama in office and run Hillary when it was "her turn,"...the Obamas and Clintons still hate each other with a virulent passion. Also: Twitter rumors that it's Her Turn Again - that she's throwing her hat in the ring. Not consistent with the above, and not nearly as well sourced either. Very consistent with the above IMO. Biden hangs on long enough to get to the convention, “suddenly” realizes stepping aside is the best move, and instructs his delegates to support Killary. And by suddenly I mean right after the blackmail is threatened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Reading the whole article, I disagree that is was mismanagement of the call that was being called ludicrous. Points for trying though, NBC. 'Ludicrous': Donors leave call with Kamala Harris frustrated and annoyed The gathering of about 300 donors was meant to calm concerns but instead upset several who said it was badly organized, though they didn’t blame Harris herself. </snip> One person on the call referred to it as “mismanaged” and “rushed.” They added expectations had not been managed well and some participants left feeling admonished. </snip> “It was a total failure,” said one source who was on the call and who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide a candid assessment. “It was damaging. It was poor planning.” The call had been organized by Jen O’Malley Dillon, the chair of Biden’s campaign, and not by the campaign’s finance team, according to a source familiar with the planning. One of the sources who was on the call said the donors who participated represented a wide range of views — some die-hard Biden fans, some unconvinced about his path forward and many views in between. At the end of the call, hundreds of participants were unmuted, and one person declared that the call was “ludicrous,” according to two of the sources. One source stressed that they took the comment to mean that the call was poorly run and not as a criticism of Harris. During the call, Harris, who was asked to join the call by Biden’s senior advisers, praised Biden, according to campaign officials. “We know which candidate in this election puts the American people first: our president, Joe Biden,” she said, according to the campaign officials. “With every decision he makes in the Oval Office, he thinks about how it will impact working Americans. And I witness it every day.” </snip> 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 10 minutes ago, Ann said: Reading the whole article, I disagree that is was mismanagement of the call that was being called ludicrous. Points for trying though, NBC. 'Ludicrous': Donors leave call with Kamala Harris frustrated and annoyed The gathering of about 300 donors was meant to calm concerns but instead upset several who said it was badly organized, though they didn’t blame Harris herself. </snip> One person on the call referred to it as “mismanaged” and “rushed.” They added expectations had not been managed well and some participants left feeling admonished. </snip> “It was a total failure,” said one source who was on the call and who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide a candid assessment. “It was damaging. It was poor planning.” The call had been organized by Jen O’Malley Dillon, the chair of Biden’s campaign, and not by the campaign’s finance team, according to a source familiar with the planning. One of the sources who was on the call said the donors who participated represented a wide range of views — some die-hard Biden fans, some unconvinced about his path forward and many views in between. At the end of the call, hundreds of participants were unmuted, and one person declared that the call was “ludicrous,” according to two of the sources. One source stressed that they took the comment to mean that the call was poorly run and not as a criticism of Harris. During the call, Harris, who was asked to join the call by Biden’s senior advisers, praised Biden, according to campaign officials. “We know which candidate in this election puts the American people first: our president, Joe Biden,” she said, according to the campaign officials. “With every decision he makes in the Oval Office, he thinks about how it will impact working Americans. And I witness it every day.” </snip> And to think, this is entirely due to the fact that the have a debilitated candidate, refuse to acknowledge it, have completely deluded themselves into thinking it's not true, and can't figure out a path forward because of it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 16 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: And to think, this is entirely due to the fact that the have a debilitated candidate, refuse to acknowledge it, have completely deluded themselves into thinking it's not true, have convinced their hard core constituents it's not true, and can't figure out a path forward because of it. Ftfy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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devnull Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 31 minutes ago, B-Man said: Wow! Read the comments That Tweet did not have the anticipated response 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) Looks like Biden is out. Edited July 21 by IDBillzFan 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, B-Man said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, devnull said: Genuinely surprised, I thought this wouldn't happen until tomorrow. Probably took all week to write the letter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoney Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Can't wait to learn Cackles' long list of accomplishments as Border and AI Czars. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MothersMilk Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Mahoney said: Can't wait to learn Cackles' long list of accomplishments as Border and AI Czars. Cackles. lol Actually if she's indeed their nomination expect a whole lot of cacklin political ads. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ann Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Someone should ask her about paper ballots in 2024 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 They must really fear a second Trump term. Charge Trump with crimes that don't exist, make him a felon, attempt to assassinate him, remove the sitting president in yet another attempt to prevent him from taking office, and finally cheat like hell to install Kamala. 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 He's not wrong... 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Tell me you're outside the Biden circle of trust without using those words. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Ann said: They must really fear a second Trump term. Charge Trump with crimes that don't exist, make him a felon, attempt to assassinate him, remove the sitting president in yet another attempt to prevent him from taking office, and finally cheat like hell to install Kamala. Well, they know that after all their impeachments and prosecutions that he will NOT offer any of them an olive branch this next time should he actually assume the office. They were close to getting charged 4 years ago. No way they don't get charged should he retake the office. They were worried about him before. They are now downright panicked about the thought of him getting to be in charge of the executive once again. Funny thing is, they keep on talking about how he'll destroy democracy and try to #### over ordinary Americans. Based on his 1st 4 years, don't see that happening at all should he get back in. But the world of the Comeys, Strzoks, Brennans, and the like will be hammered like the eye of a Cat 5 hurricane went right over them. (Realizing the eye does no damage, but to get to the eye you have to go through the worst of the storm both coming and going.) 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 15 minutes ago, Ann said: I can't believe people believe this shit. It is objectively, provably false. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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