2024 Election Season

[IDBillzFan]

5 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

The gaslighting is just unbelievable, though.  "We have to deny Kamala was the Border Czar, even though we called her the Border Czar three years ago, because then Republicans will criticize her for the border being a mess, even though we've reported the border is just fine."

 

 

It feels like the people in charge of running the Biden/Harris administration overdo the gaslighting to the extent that even the plebes are starting to get it. 

 

You can't spend a year with everyone on the left yelling that Trump is a threat to democracy and will weaponize the FBI to take out his political opponents and put them in jail while spending every waking hour weaponizing the FBI to take out Trump and put him in jail.

 

Most people are stupid, but they're not all Kamala-level stupid. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24 by IDBillzFan

[Ann]

14 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That's not going to help anything.

 

Yes, it's 100% true. And I have no problem helping America either remember or learn how Kamala got to her place in the world, because even Willie Brown talked about how she'd be nowhere without him.

 

But we don't need to go ALL the way down there. Keep hitting her with her past comments over and over. There's such a firehose flow of stupidity from her background that it would be impossible for the left to keep up with defending it all.

 

 

There is a segment of women who will not vote for her because she slept her way into her position (no pun intended). Married into it is one thing, slept with a married man to get ahead is quite another.  I suspect those women already know about her history and will not be voting for her. 

I agree that it does not help the campaign to say anything about it (although that is not the campaign) and they need to go after her time as DA and her lack of accomplishments since. 

[IDBillzFan]

Here's your reminder as the left tries to pretend Harris was never really put in charge of the border issues.

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

3 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

Here's your reminder as the left tries to pretend Harris was never really put in charge of the border issues.

 

 

 

"Madame Vice President...regarding these reports from 2001 about your responsibility for the border...are you lazy, or just incompetent?"

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

 

 

  That gaslighting must not be polling well. 
 

 

 

 

SEE that's PROOF that she wasn't the "Border Czar."  That term was NEVER used by 46.  She was merely in charge of directing the executive's directives along the border.  They are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.  /atop (most likely)

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

4 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

SEE that's PROOF that she wasn't the "Border Czar."  That term was NEVER used by 46.  She was merely in charge of directing the executive's directives along the border.  They are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.  /atop (most likely)

 

ATOP?  

 

Fifty bucks says Morning Joe runs with that tomorrow.

Edited July 24 by Crap Throwing Clavin

[Deranged Rhino]

3 hours ago, Ann said:

 

 

It's hilarious - but the record speed in how fast people (on X and socials) called this lie out for what it was is impressive. 

 

Consider 2020 - after a lot of the trust in the media had been shaken by Covid and years of "BUT RUSSIA!" - even then it would still take 3-4 days for a news story to be "widely" debunked on socials. 

 

In 2024 it took less than 5 hours. 

 

People are pissed at being lied to.

 

1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That's not going to help anything.

 

Yes, it's 100% true. And I have no problem helping America either remember or learn how Kamala got to her place in the world, because even Willie Brown talked about how she'd be nowhere without him.

 

But we don't need to go ALL the way down there. Keep hitting her with her past comments over and over. There's such a firehose flow of stupidity from her background that it would be impossible for the left to keep up with defending it all.

 

 

 

This is the way (imo) - divide the roles between those most capable. Let the memers and anons handle the "personal history", let the press handle the policy nonsense that's being spewed. 

 

 

1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

It's genuinely incredible how this system works. I know @Ann believes X is the new biggest megaphone, and it can certainly feel that way at times because of the traffic, but there is a reason the other media outlets still stand upright, and it's because people still use them. They still scan the headlines. 

 

My hope here is that the Kamala honeymoon will come to an end by the end of their convention, and people start to hear not just the stupid shit she's said in the past, but all the stupid shit she's about to say because while Biden was just a lying sack of shit with dementia, Kamala is 100% dumb as a bag of rocks and she can't live off a teleprompter for everything.

 

Here's something to consider: 

 

The other media outlets are still standing - because their audiences are set in stone and not gaining ground. Their audiences are 45+ (older even), and largely viewers who are tuning in to have their views validated, not challenged. They're not adding viewers, they're losing them to the grave. And the ones they're reaching are just the die-hards who grew up in a world where they believed the MSM to be fair, even if biased. 

 

No one under 45 believes that anymore. Even on the left. 

 

Which is why X (and socials) are catering to an ever-growing audience of people under 45 (under 30 really) who haven't made up their minds on most issues, know the media is slanted if not outright bull, and thus are more swayable (for better or worse) depending on the messaging going on. 

 

The biggest microphone isn't just sick, it's in hospice and in its final hours. The past two-three cycles since the debate confirm this. 

 

1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

It feels like the people in charge of running the Biden/Harris administration overdo the gaslighting to the extent that even the plebes are starting to get it. 

 

You can't spend a year with everyone on the left yelling that Trump is a threat to democracy and will weaponize the FBI to take out his political opponents and put them in jail while spending every waking hour weaponizing the FBI to take out Trump and put him in jail.

 

Most people are stupid, but they're not all Kamala-level stupid. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This move wasn't done as a 4th dimensional chess move by Obama or the DNC or the party elites. It was driven by panic. 

 

They know she's going to lose. This is all an attempt to either scuttle the ship before the election, or make things so volatile and violent that the next administration is going to take over a burning house and be blamed for it. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

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[Alaska Darin]

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

This makes sense. Still won't work, but they need to hold PA to have any shot. 

 

But Shaprio is toxic, even more so than Kamala nationally - making it totally on brand. 

[Ann]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That is what needs to pounded on by surrogates ... she knew.  And facilitated the lie.
 

[Ann]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

"He's vulgar, self-absorbed, dishonest"

She just described Kamala Harris perfectly, yet ascribed those words to Trump.   She knows she is wrong, appears to admit it, and yet doubles down by voting for her.  

[Ann]

Wow
 

 

[Ann]

We all know why. Started with Obama.
 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

22 minutes ago, Ann said:

We all know why. Started with Obama.
 

 

 

So...they're encouraging credit card fraud for campaign donations?

 

I &#%$ing hate Democrats.

[Ann]

20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

There is a reason they are trying to gaslight her responsibility at the border. The internals on this must be catastrophic.

"I think she's an idiot" and "She's not real smart" just about covers it. 

I think there is something wrong with her. She is so socially inept, and for a politician that is .