JoshAllen Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 34 minutes ago, Boyst said: the student loan forgiveness programs were never designed to succeed. not all of them. but they were political ammunition and more important ammunition to fire and start to shred holes into the fabric of legal frameworks to make it possible 12 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Let me get this right: the woman who's administration spent the last three years sending its DOJ after its political opponent is no threat to our democratic institutions? Really? That's the thought here? The same administration that has imprisoned a bunch of protesters while importing hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans and Haitian criminals? THAT protection of our democracy? And now you want the Republican party to return to its roots? What roots would they be? You mean the Cheneys? Mitch McConnell? Paul Ryan? Mitt Romney? All the GOP people who literally abandoned their principles to team with Biden Harris to weaponize the DOJ so Trump doesn't go back to breaking up their perma-war money train? Do you even follow politics? It appears you misunderstand the true essence of conservatism. Trump's actions on January 6 were reminiscent of a leader of a banana republic. Yet, no one here has defended these actions or explored why many Americans might hesitate to support him. Instead, group think leader dismisses my perspective as trolling. This approach hardly aligns with respecting the First Amendment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Just now, JoshAllen said: It appears you misunderstand the true essence of conservatism. Seriously, I’m guessing if you add up your IQ points we don’t even hit single digits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JoshAllen said: It appears you misunderstand the true essence of conservatism. Trump's actions on January 6 were reminiscent of a leader of a banana republic. Yet, no one here has defended these actions or explored why many Americans might hesitate to support him. Instead, group think leader dismisses my perspective as trolling. This approach hardly aligns with respecting the First Amendment. So you believe that Trump sent all those protesters into the Capital and told them to take things over so he could return as president? If not, tell me what you believe happened? What took place that could possibly threaten our democracy this time around? What are you so convinced will happen that you are willing to elect one of the dumbest people on the planet, who is running for POTUS alongside a dude so disliked even his own FAMILY won't vote for him? Sell me on what Trump specifically did wrong. Edited October 10 by IDBillzFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 20 minutes ago, Ann said: https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/voting_system/files/Dominion_Deficiency_Report.pdf Search for the password... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoshAllen Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: So you believe that Trump sent all those protesters into the Capital and told them to take things over so he could return as president? If not, tell me what you believe happened? What took place that could possibly threaten our democracy this time around? What are you so convinced will happen that you are willing to elect one of the dumbest people on the planet, who is running for POTUS alongside a dude so disliked even his own FAMILY won't vote for him? Sell me on what Trump specifically did wrong. This event should never have occurred. It was an utter catastrophe orchestrated by individuals who have since faced disbarment or imprisonment for seditious conspiracy. While I support Trump's constitutional right to exhaust his legal options, in which he did, his role in January 6 is indefensible. It's particularly telling that many who worked closest to him now withhold their support. Trump should have participated in the Republican primaries. Had he done so, I believe we might have ended up with a candidate capable of winning this election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllen Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Only one party is running on a platform of “looking at the first amendment” to fight “disinformation”. And it’s the party that has throttled conservative voices and views on social media, censored REAL news stories to push propaganda designed to help their candidates, and of course that’s the party you - a self avowed “conservative” are supporting because…. The only one deflecting is you. Look, both parties employ these scare tactics. You seem frustrated that I'm not more agitated by any of them. Considering the events of January 6, could you explain why Trump should be considered for office again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, JoshAllen said: It appears you misunderstand the true essence of conservatism. Trump's actions on January 6 were reminiscent of a leader of a banana republic. Yet, no one here has defended these actions or explored why many Americans might hesitate to support him. Instead, group think leader dismisses my perspective as trolling. This approach hardly aligns with respecting the First Amendment. Do us a favor, and define "Trump's actions", as pertaining to J6. I want to know what information you're basing your stance on. Your answer will be enlightening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said: So you believe that Trump sent all those protesters into the Capital and told them to take things over so he could return as president? If not, tell me what you believe happened? What took place that could possibly threaten our democracy this time around? What are you so convinced will happen that you are willing to elect one of the dumbest people on the planet, who is running for POTUS alongside a dude so disliked even his own FAMILY won't vote for him? Sell me on what Trump specifically did wrong. Sorry, I didn't see you ask these, before I posted asking essentially the same. It really will be telling, the answer to what 'Trump's (supposed) actions' were. I think I know the answer they'll give, but we'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, JoshAllen said: This event should never have occurred. It was an utter catastrophe orchestrated by individuals who have since faced disbarment or imprisonment for seditious conspiracy. While I support Trump's constitutional right to exhaust his legal options, in which he did, his role in January 6 is indefensible. It's particularly telling that many who worked closest to him now withhold their support. Trump should have participated in the Republican primaries. Had he done so, I believe we might have ended up with a candidate capable of winning this election. You still didn't answer the question. What do you see as "Trump's role" in J6? What, specifically, did Trump do, that you don't agree with/think were wrong, regarding the events of January 6th, 2021? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, JoshAllen said: While I support Trump's constitutional right to exhaust his legal options, in which he did, his role in January 6 is indefensible. What role was that, specifically? What did he specifically do to cause J6? Please show your work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, TtownBillsFan said: Sorry, I didn't see you ask these, before I posted asking essentially the same. It doesn't matter who asks the question. He can't answer it. You may as well ask him what the ignition timing was in a 1955 Chevrolet Bel Air with a 327 engine and a 4-bbl carburetor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsandhorns Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 When did Trump ever present himself as a conservative? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 2 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: It doesn't matter who asks the question. He can't answer it. You may as well ask him what the ignition timing was in a 1955 Chevrolet Bel Air with a 327 engine and a 4-bbl carburetor. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllen Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 3 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said: Do us a favor, and define "Trump's actions", as pertaining to J6. I want to know what information you're basing your stance on. Your answer will be enlightening. Trump's authorization of an event he knew could potentially harm Americans (and it did) is a serious breach of presidential duty. He simply cannot be trusted and raises questions about Trump's judgment and commitment to the American people's welfare. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 1 hour ago, JoshAllen said: Trump's authorization of an event he knew could potentially harm Americans (and it did) is a serious breach of presidential duty. He simply cannot be trusted and raises questions about Trump's judgment and commitment to the American people's welfare. Border czar Harris's authorization of open borders, which she knew could potentially harm Americans (and it did), is a serious breach of executive branch duty. She simply cannot be trusted and raises questions about Harris's judgment and commitment to the American people's welfare. Which affected the welfare of more Americans and will continue to do so for years to come? 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, JoshAllen said: Trump's authorization of an event he knew could potentially harm Americans (and it did) is a serious breach of presidential duty. He simply cannot be trusted and raises questions about Trump's judgment and commitment to the American people's welfare. Are you so ridiculously inhumane that you gladly ignore the hundreds, even thousands of Americans -- including little pre-teen children -- who have been raped, robbed, beaten, tortured, sold into sex trafficking, and murdered exclusively because of Harris' border policy these past few years? They are all very well documented, unless you're too lazy and mindless to look into it yourself. Or are those rapes and murders okay because at least she's not Trump? You need to go back to ATOP where your opinions will be considerably less embarrassing and most assuredly more accepted. What a moronic, soulless punk. Edited October 11 by IDBillzFan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 9 hours ago, JoshAllen said: . Trump should have participated in the Republican primaries. Had he done so, I believe we might have ended up with a candidate capable of winning this election. Trump very much participated in the Republican primaries. His participation consisted of winning all of them. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ann Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I thought it was a joke. Nope. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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