2024 Election Season

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, JoshAllen said:

 

You seem unaware of how dismissive your tone comes across.

No, I’m very aware and you deserve every bit of it. 
 

And ANOTHER dodge. Still can’t answer the question(s) posed to you. I wonder why?? 
 

&#%$ off, asshat. 

[JoshAllen]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Note: according to the man of principles and the lover of our democratic institutions - the biggest sin the GOP has committed is a bunch of…. (Checks notes): non politicians, most of whom had never been republicans, trespassing in a federal building (90% peacefully)….
 

And NOT:

 

* Lying to the world about WMD in Iraq and launching 20+ years of endless war, costing 3 trillion (on a credit card), and killing MILLIONS in the process.

(who cares about dead people when a building was violated!!!)
 

* Lying to the American people about the illegal surveillance of US citizens (in violation of the 4th amendment) for almost a DECADE before Snowden forced them to come clean. 
 

(who cares about a tyrannical government shredding the Bill of Rights and an unchecked intelligence community running over innocent Americans - people walked through Congress when they weren’t supposed to!!!)

 

* Jamming the Patriot Act down a grieving nation’s throat, stripping away fundamental rights and constitutional protections - while engorging the Executive over that of the other two branches of government. 

(who cares about ripping up the constitution and checks and balances, people yelled at cops in the capitol!!!)

 

* Not for helping the outgoing Obama administration undercut the peaceful transition of power (with RussiaGate) in order to disenfranchise millions of voters because the GOP didn’t like tho they voted for. 
 

(who cares about a back door coup and four years of endless gaslighting, people sat in Pelosi’s chair!!!!)
 

He was FINE with all the blood, lies, and usurpation of power at the expense of our democratic norms, traditions, and institutions… none of that even registered. 

 

But the moment the TV told him an incident that lasted under two hours, had no firearms or death (except for the Trump supporter who got shot of course) was worse than 9/11 and Pearl Harbor combined he became traumatized and scared - making THAT his line in the sand. 
 

There’s dumb. Then there’s whatever this is. I’d say it’s fellating the establishment in order to virtue signal that he’s a good little serf. But we all know it’s just trolling. 
 

It’s thinking like this that got us into this mess and deserves to be ridiculed and mocked at every turn. 

 

I understand. We can't change the past, but it's a fact that Trump's presence polarizes people on both sides of the political spectrum, and this divisive atmosphere isn't sustainable for our society.

[Deranged Rhino]

8 minutes ago, JoshAllen said:

 

I understand. We can't change the past, but it's a fact that Trump's presence polarizes people on both sides of the political spectrum, and this divisive atmosphere isn't sustainable for our society.

You dishonest twat. That’s another dodge. That post is questioning why Trump being “divisive” is a bigger sin TO YOU than any of those other events. Hell, why is J6th a bigger sin? 
 

You had no problem with millions dead? No problems with the shredding of our civil liberties and the foundational documents of our republic? Funny, because in your first posts that’s what you claimed to care most about. 
 

But the truth is either 1) you care only about what the TV tells you to care about because you’re an NPC who wouldn’t know where to feed himself if his mouth didn’t flap so much, or 2) you’re trolling and are as TERRIBLE at it with your new account as you were in your last. 
 

And while you try to dodge answering this DIRECT questions - because you are allergic to being real and/or intelligent -why don’t you explain something else. Share why you, a “conservative”, find Trump so “divisive” to the point where you’re voting for a progressive liberal to “protect our democratic institutions”?
 

Then you can answer me what is more divisive, Trump or the identity politics pushed for the past 15 years that have, by design, turned citizens against one another? Was it Trump who foisted CRT and new-age Marxism on our political discourse, or was it the establishment who benefits from a divided country? 
 

There’s only one honest answer to that - let’s see if you’re man enough to say it or if you’ll dodge again. 
 

(There’s literally NO doubt which you’ll do)

[JoshAllen]

7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

You dishonest twat. That’s another dodge. That post is questioning why Trump being “divisive” is a bigger sin TO YOU than any of those other events. Hell, why is J6th a bigger sin? 
 

You had no problem with millions dead? No problems with the shredding of our civil liberties and the foundational documents of our republic? Funny, because in your first posts that’s what you claimed to care most about. 
 

But the truth is either 1) you care only about what the TV tells you to care about because you’re an NPC who wouldn’t know where to feed himself if his mouth didn’t flap so much, or 2) you’re trolling and are as TERRIBLE at it with your new account as you were in your last. 
 

And while you try to dodge answering this DIRECT questions - because you are allergic to being real and/or intelligent -why don’t you explain something else. Share why you, a “conservative”, find Trump so “divisive” to the point where you’re voting for a progressive liberal to “protect our democratic institutions”?
 

Then you can answer me what is more divisive, Trump or the identity politics pushed for the past 15 years that have, by design, turned citizens against one another? Was it Trump who foisted CRT and new-age Marxism on our political discourse, or was it the establishment who benefits from a divided country? 
 

There’s only one honest answer to that - let’s see if you’re man enough to say it or if you’ll dodge again. 
 

(There’s literally NO doubt which you’ll do)

 

I was already told here that Trump isn't a conservative and that he never sold himself as one.

 

I am a conservative.

 

And that's the key difference.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, JoshAllen said:

 

I was already told here that Trump isn't a conservative and that he never sold himself as one.

 

I am a conservative.

 

And that's the key difference.

 

 

&#%$ing twat, another dodge. You earned this. 
 

[dr. who]

38 minutes ago, JoshAllen said:

 

I understand. We can't change the past, but it's a fact that Trump's presence polarizes people on both sides of the political spectrum, and this divisive atmosphere isn't sustainable for our society.

The totalitarian Left is the source of divisiveness. Unless they have all the power, there will always be polarization. Trump's unforgivable sin was forcing them to engage in increasingly desperate fraudulent acts to maintain control. The minute anything goes against their tyrannous imperatives, they riot, stuff the ballot boxes, destroy the border, imprison and prosecute political foes, and threaten to eradicate the electoral college, pack the Supreme Court, and make Puerto Rico the fifty-first state. But by all means, let's blame Trump.

 

American Pravda buries the misdeeds of the regime, gaslights, creates false narratives, and the thoroughly feckless toadies who pretend to be advocates for science and the "adults in the room"nod their heads and ask for more. The very folks who have turned the world into a playground for thugs and terrorists, whilst ignoring the widespread suffering of their own citizens chastise those who don't go along with the dirty game. 

 

When folks complain about Trump and MAGA, what they really mean is we should all be happy minions of the surveillance state. Look at what is happening in the UK and Canada. Folks are being put in prison for waving a flag, posting a dissenting meme, provoking tears from those who aggressively persecute their enemies with the prestige of victimhood.

 

But keep at it. Your kind of sanctimonious dim is very popular in other, dumber parts. Indeed, those places already practice censorship and cancelling of views they don't like, erasing posts and banning with that special, cavalier enthusiasm so characteristic of infantile fascists who fancy themselves a higher class of individual. Say hi to Simon over ATOP.

Edited Sunday at 02:09 AM by dr. who

[JoshAllen]

27 minutes ago, dr. who said:

The totalitarian Left is the source of divisiveness. Unless they have all the power, there will always be polarization. Trump's unforgivable sin was forcing them to engage in increasingly desperate fraudulent acts to maintain control. The minute anything goes against their tyrannous imperatives, they riot, stuff the ballot boxes, destroy the border, imprison and prosecute political foes, and threaten to eradicate the electoral college, pack the Supreme Court, and make Puerto Rico the fifty-first state. But by all means, let's blame Trump.

 

The Constitution lays out how a constitutional amendment would eliminate the Electoral College. Increasing the Supreme Court requires Congressional legislation. And here's a new one for you: adding Puerto Rico as a state also requires Congressional approval.

 

I criticize Trump because he's not a conservative and he can't win elections.

 

27 minutes ago, dr. who said:

American Pravda buries the misdeeds of the regime, gaslights, creates false narratives, and the thoroughly feckless toadies who pretend to be advocates for science and the "adults in the room"nod their heads and ask for more. The very folks who have turned the world into a playground for thugs and terrorists, whilst ignoring the widespread suffering of their own citizens chastise those who don't go along with the dirty game. 

 

When folks complain about Trump and MAGA, what they really mean is we should all be happy minions of the surveillance state. Look at what is happening in the UK and Canada. Folks are being put in prison for waving a flag, posting a dissenting meme, provoking tears from those who aggressively persecute their enemies with the prestige of victimhood.

 

Don't you just love the "free speech" crowd?

 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 02:35 AM by JoshAllen

[Hedge]

*VERY* long post, that does a pretty decent job detailing the intended destruction of our country:

 

Full text:

A number of my good friends and family have been surprised about my decision to support

@realDonaldTrump

for president. They have been surprised because my political giving history has been mostly to Democrats, my voting registration has typically been Democrat (in NY, you must be registered to the party in order to vote in the primary, and usually the Republican candidate has no chance to win), and many of our philanthropic initiatives have supported issues that are consistent with Democratic priorities. All of the above said, I have always considered myself to be a centrist and/or moderate, and I have voted for the candidate and supported the issues and policies that I believe are in the best interest of the country. Some have accused me of supporting Trump because doing so will somehow benefit me financially. Fortunately, I do not need any financial benefits as I and my family have well more than we need. I have also committed to give away the substantial majority of my resources at or by the time I am no longer, so I don't consider personal financial benefits in the determination of whom I support for office. Some have suggested that I am supporting Trump because I am seeking a position in his administration. To be clear, I haven't been offered one and I wouldn't take a job in the administration (I love my job and it is the wrong time in my life to work in an administration). I will, however, do everything else I can to help the president succeed in helping our country and its citizens. All of the above said, I am an investor who manages funds that own some of the best, principally American, businesses in the world. In a better governed and managed America, these business will do better and increase in value faster. One might therefore argue that being 'long' America is somehow a conflict, so I thought to disclose this potential 'conflict' here. Some of my friends and family who support

@KamalaHarris

are ok with my supporting Trump, but don't want me to attempt to convince others to support him. Because I strongly believe that a Trump administration will be better for the country and the world than a Harris administration, I think it is important to share my thinking to the extent it helps others come to the right conclusion. Three months ago, when I endorsed Trump on the day of the first assassination attempt, I promised to share my thinking about why I came to this conclusion in a future more detailed post. I intend to do so in possibly more than one post, with the first, this one, explaining the actions and policies of the Biden/Harris administration and Democratic Party that were the catalysts for my losing total confidence in the administration and the Party. To be clear, my decision to vote for Trump is not an endorsement of everything he has done or will do because he is an imperfect man. Unlike a marriage or a business partnership where there are effectively unlimited alternatives, in this election, we have only two viable choices. Of the two, I believe that Trump is by far the superior candidate despite his flaws and mistakes he has made in the past. As always, I welcome your feedback on how I could be wrong and on how the below actions and policies I outline below might actually have been good for America. I have always believed that the best way to get to the truth is to hear the best arguments on all sides of an issue. While the 33 actions I describe below are those of the Democratic Party and the Biden/Harris administration, they are also the actions and policies that unfortunately our most aggressive adversaries would likely implement if they wanted to destroy America from within, and had the ability to take control of our leadership.

These are the 33:

(1) open the borders to millions of immigrants who were not screened for their risk to the country, dumping them into communities where the new immigrants overwhelm existing communities and the infrastructure to support the new entrants, at the expense of the historic residents,

(2) introduce economic policies and massively increase spending without regard to their impact on inflation and the consequences for low-income Americans and the increase in our deficit and national debt,

(3) withdraw from Afghanistan, abandoning our local partners and the civilians who worked alongside us in an unprepared, overnight withdrawal that led to American casualties and destroyed the lives of Afghani women and girls for generations, against the strong advice of our military leadership, and thereafter not showing appropriate respect for their loss at a memorial ceremony in their honor,

(4) introduce thousands of new and unnecessary regulations in light of the existing regulatory regime that interfere with our businesses’ ability to compete, restraining the development of desperately needed housing, infrastructure, and energy production with the associated inflationary effects,

(5) modify the bail system so that violent criminals are released without bail,

(6) destroy our street retailers and communities and promote lawlessness by making shoplifting (except above large thresholds) no longer a criminal offense,

(7) limit and/or attempt to limit or ban fracking and LNG so that U.S. energy costs increase substantially and the U.S. loses its energy independence,

(8) promote DEI ideologies that award jobs, awards, and university admissions on the basis of race, sexual identity and gender criteria, and teach our students and citizens that the world can only be understood as an unfair battle between oppressors and the oppressed, where the oppressors are only successful due to structural racism or a rigged system and the oppressed are simply victims of an unfair system and world,

(9) educate our elementary children that gender is fluid, something to be chosen by a child, and promote hormone blockers and gender reassignment surgeries to our youth without regard to the longer-term consequences to their mental and physical health, and allow biological boys and men to compete in girls and women's sports, depriving girls and women of scholarships, awards, and other opportunities that they would have rightly earned otherwise,

(10) encourage and celebrate massive protests and riots that lead to the burning and destruction of local retail and business establishments while at the same time requiring schools to be shuttered because of the risk of Covid-19 spreading during large gatherings,

(11) encourage and celebrate anti-American and anti-Israel protests and flag burning on campuses around the country with no consequences for the protesters who violate laws or university codes and policies, (12) allow antisemitism to explode with no serious efforts from the administration to quell this hatred,

(13) mandate vaccines that have not been adequately tested nor have their risks been properly considered compared with the potential benefits adjusted for the age and health of the individual, censoring the contrary advice of top scientists around the world,

(14) shut down free speech in media and on social media platforms that is inconsistent with government policies and objectives,

(15) use the U.S., state, and local legal systems to attack and attempt to jail, take off the campaign trail, and/or massively fine candidates for the presidency without regard to the merits or precedential issues of the case,

(16) seek to defund the police and promote anti-police rhetoric causing a loss of confidence in those who are charged with protecting us,

(17) use government funds to subsidize auto companies and internet providers with vastly more expensive, dated and/or lower-quality technology when greatly superior and cheaper alternatives are available from companies that are owned and/or managed by individuals not favored by the current administration,

(18) mandate in legislation and otherwise government solutions to problems when the private sector can do a vastly better, faster, and cheaper job,

(19) seek to ban gas-powered cars and stoves without regard to the economic and practical consequences of doing so,

(20) take no serious actions when 45 American citizens are killed by terrorists and 12 are taken hostage,

(21) hold back armaments and weaponry from our most important ally in the Middle East in the midst of their hostage negotiations, hostages who include American citizens who have now been held for more than one year,

(22) eliminate sanctions on one of our most dangerous enemies enabling them to generate $150 billion+ of cash reserves from oil sales, which they can then use to fund terrorist proxy organizations who attack us and our allies. Exchange five American hostages held by Iran for five Iranians plus $6 billion of cash in the worst hostage negotiation in history setting a disastrous and dangerous precedent,

(23) remove known terrorist organizations from the terrorist list so we can provide aid to their people, and allow them to shoot rockets at U.S. assets and military bases with little if any military response from us,

(24) lie to the American people about the cognitive health of the president and accuse those who provide video evidence of his decline of sharing doctored videos and being right wing conspirators,

(25) do nothing about the deteriorating health of our citizens driven by the food industrial complex, the fraudulent USDA food pyramid, and the inclusion of ingredients in our food that are banned by other countries around the world which are more protective of their citizens,

(26) do nothing about the proliferation of new vaccines that are not properly analyzed for their risk versus the potential benefit for healthy children who are mandated to receive them,

(27) do nothing about the continued exemption from liability for the pharma industry that has led to a proliferation of mandatory vaccines for children without considering the potential cumulative effects of the now mandated 72-shot regime,

(28) convince our minority youth that they are victims of a rigged system and that the American dream is not available to them,

(29) fail to provide adequate Secret Service protection for alternative presidential candidates,

(30) litigate to prevent alternative candidates from getting on the ballot, and take other anti-competitive steps including threatening political consultants who wish to work for alternative candidates for the presidency, and limit the potential media access for other candidates by threatening the networks' future access to the administration and access to 'scoops' if they platform an alternative candidate,

(31) select the Democratic nominee for president in a backroom process by undisclosed party leaders without allowing Americans to choose between candidates in an open primary,

(32) choose an inferior candidate for the presidency when other much more qualified candidates are available and interested to serve,

(33) litigate to make it illegal for states to require proof of citizenship, voter ID, and/or residence in order to vote at a time when many Americans have lost confidence in the accuracy and trustworthiness of our voting system.

I welcome your thoughts.

 

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Definitely a list of things that only brain dead leftists, communists and other enemies of the USA, and "true conservatives" like @JoshAllen can support.

[Hedge]

 

 

[devnull]

5 hours ago, JoshAllen said:

 

What is the weather like in DC in January?

 

 

I dunno, ask Gretchen Witmer

[Ann]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

They’re trying to get ahead of the blowout that’s coming…

 

The Four Reasons Harris is Losing

 

”The first is Harris herself. She is simply not a very good candidate. She lacks confidence and is seemingly terrified to take any unrehearsed or unvetted policy questions.”

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4929051-the-4-reasons-harris-is-losing/

 

I don’t understand. What blowback?

[Ann]

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

That’s scary

 

[Hedge]

36 minutes ago, Ann said:

 

 

 

 

 

Seeing the crowd there was estimated at over 100,000. Which really isn't that surprising as it's his only CA rally, at a huge venue, in a state that he pulled in over 6 million votes in 2020 (the most R votes of any state, which a lot of people seem to forget, as it's drowned out by twice as many wackos).

[Ann]

Anyone know what this is about?
 

 

 

 

[Ann]

 

 

[Nelson59]

Saying Trump is polarizing is not accurate. The majority of America have not liked any of the people running government for a long time. They also realized that the media creates the tickets each election. If your job is to report the News unbiasedly, why do they feel the need to endorse a candidate?

 

Prior to 2016, Trump was a celebrity. He was in all the social circles. He stepped out of those circles and the media/political regime didn't like that. He knew their dirty secrets. It was the media that created the polarization. Trump knew that candidates like Mitt Romney, John McCain, Obama, Clintons and the Bushes were more of the same and keeping status quo. When John McCain made Sarah Palin his running mate, the media attacked because she was not one of them. Amazing, just think about how they treat Tampon Tim as compared to Sarah Palin. That's all the proof you need to see who created the polarization.

[Ann]

🤣

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

Awwww I read that he is 96.

 

 

[Ann]