Trump Assassination Attempt, July 13, 2024 Butler PA and Florida

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

How is it legal for public officials to be on this board?
 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 hours ago, Ann said:

How is it legal for public officials to be on this board?
 

 

 

How is it legal for public officials to be on ANY corporate board?

 

I'd fully support a law banning this.  Insider trading is trivial compared to this.

[Ann]

Because there are no repercussions
 

 

[Ann]

 

[RochesterRob]

25 minutes ago, Ann said:

Because there are no repercussions
 

 

  The repercussions are a slap on the wrist and that is the problem.  Long term imprisonment and executions need to reappear to put healthy fear in those who would break laws.  But the problem is that without a moral society those in power would abuse those punishments in order to hinder political opponents.  I fear that the present society is permanently lost in terms of a future as it presently exists.  

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

Local Pennsylvania authorities released a one-page report Thursday outlining how the man who attempted to kill former President Donald Trump died.

Trump shooter autopsy reveals cause of death after attempted assassination

 

Butler County Coroner William Young determined Thomas Crooks, 20, died from a single gunshot wound to the head at 6:25 p.m. on July 13. He ruled the official cause of death a homicide.

 

A counter-sniper team shot Crooks while on the white roof of the warehouse owned by AGR International near the rally site.

 

Butler County declined a request from the USA TODAY Network for a full copy of the autopsy results, citing the state’s record law that specifically exempts it. It is unknown whether officials tested Crooks for chemicals or medications as is standard in autopsy examinations.

 

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[Taro T]

24 minutes ago, Ann said:

Local Pennsylvania authorities released a one-page report Thursday outlining how the man who attempted to kill former President Donald Trump died.

Trump shooter autopsy reveals cause of death after attempted assassination

 

Butler County Coroner William Young determined Thomas Crooks, 20, died from a single gunshot wound to the head at 6:25 p.m. on July 13. He ruled the official cause of death a homicide.

 

A counter-sniper team shot Crooks while on the white roof of the warehouse owned by AGR International near the rally site.

 

Butler County declined a request from the USA TODAY Network for a full copy of the autopsy results, citing the state’s record law that specifically exempts it. It is unknown whether officials tested Crooks for chemicals or medications as is standard in autopsy examinations.

 

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It was a VERY justifiable homicide.  But there is no doubt that it was a homicide.

 

D*mn shame that it came to that.  The guy should never have gotten near that roof.

[Spartacus]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

It was a VERY justifiable homicide.  But there is no doubt that it was a homicide.

 

D*mn shame that it came to that.  The guy should never have gotten near that roof.

of course it was justified

he was the patsy distracting everyone from the real shooter on the 2nd floor

 

can't have loose lips talking after the fact

Edited August 3 by Spartacus

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It was a VERY justifiable homicide.  But there is no doubt that it was a homicide.

 

D*mn shame that it came to that.  The guy should never have gotten near that roof.

 

Yeah, I think that may be normal, a coroner calling "being shot to death" a "homicide," no matter the circumstances.  It's not a legal statement of criminality, just a statement of "cause of death."

[devnull]

6 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It was a VERY justifiable homicide.  But there is no doubt that it was a homicide.

 

 

Local law enforcement, independent of any Federal involvement, still has to investigate the events as a homicide (failed assassin) and attempted homicide (Trump) under Pennsylvania law

 

This I understand.  What I do not understand are the asshats that debate which event was "justifiable"

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

 

[Spartacus]

9 hours ago, Ann said:

 

more assassinations to be attempted

need readily available scapegoats and patsies

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

From July

 

 

Pakistani national with ties to Iran charged in connection to a foiled assassination plot potentially targeting Trump

 

 

The Justice Department has charged a Pakistani man who has alleged ties to the Iranian government with seeking to carry out political assassinations, a case that prompted the US government to increase security for former President Donald Trump and other officials, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.

[Ann]

We may never know the results of Crooks' autopsy:

 

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Ablechild contacted the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office to obtain a copy of the autopsy, and here’s what we learned.  According to news reports, apparently, at some point early Sunday morning, July 14, the alleged shooter’s body was transferred to the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office for autopsy.  What transportation did the Butler County coroner use?  Nobody knows.  The autopsy was conducted (no one will say when), and the autopsy was completed (no one knows when), and results were sent to the coroner’s office in Butler County (nobody knows the date).

 

Here’s where the results of the autopsy being publicly released get muddled.  Apparently, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania mandates that Allegheny County release full autopsy reports to journalists and the public.  Yeah!  But not so fast.  When requested by AbleChild, the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office refused to release the autopsy because — wait for it — “the autopsy was completed and commissioned [paid for] by Butler County and all information relating to the case must go through Butler County.”  Huh?  Because Butler County paid for the autopsy, Allegheny County cannot make public the autopsy?  You can’t make this up.

 

Though great efforts were made, AbleChild could not find any change in Pennsylvania law or regulations that exempts release of Allegheny County autopsies because another county paid for them.  Furthermore, the Butler County coroner will not release the autopsy to anyone other than the next of kin (who have remained silent except for the father stating, “I gotta pee”) and legal representatives, falling back on a single court case: Penn Jersey Advance, Inc. v. Grim, 962 A.2d 632 (Pa. 2009).  The “Right to Know” laws in Pennsylvania apparently mean nothing.

 

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[Crap Throwing Clavin]

23 minutes ago, Ann said:

We may never know the results of Crooks' autopsy:

 

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Ablechild contacted the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office to obtain a copy of the autopsy, and here’s what we learned.  According to news reports, apparently, at some point early Sunday morning, July 14, the alleged shooter’s body was transferred to the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office for autopsy.  What transportation did the Butler County coroner use?  Nobody knows.  The autopsy was conducted (no one will say when), and the autopsy was completed (no one knows when), and results were sent to the coroner’s office in Butler County (nobody knows the date).

 

Here’s where the results of the autopsy being publicly released get muddled.  Apparently, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania mandates that Allegheny County release full autopsy reports to journalists and the public.  Yeah!  But not so fast.  When requested by AbleChild, the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office refused to release the autopsy because — wait for it — “the autopsy was completed and commissioned [paid for] by Butler County and all information relating to the case must go through Butler County.”  Huh?  Because Butler County paid for the autopsy, Allegheny County cannot make public the autopsy?  You can’t make this up.

 

Though great efforts were made, AbleChild could not find any change in Pennsylvania law or regulations that exempts release of Allegheny County autopsies because another county paid for them.  Furthermore, the Butler County coroner will not release the autopsy to anyone other than the next of kin (who have remained silent except for the father stating, “I gotta pee”) and legal representatives, falling back on a single court case: Penn Jersey Advance, Inc. v. Grim, 962 A.2d 632 (Pa. 2009).  The “Right to Know” laws in Pennsylvania apparently mean nothing.

 

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What's more, it's criminal evidence in an FBI case involving the Secret Service, so DHS and Justice both get a say, too.

 

Typical bureaucratic diffusion of responsibility.  I doubt anyone knows who has the authority to release the autopsy results.  And no one's willing to take the responsibility for it on their own.