Crap Throwing Clavin Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 11 minutes ago, Ann said: Here’s one For @Joe Let's remember this was supposed to be a "rebuilding year," too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, Foxx said: He was MVP worthy the first three games of the season though. One reason why these last two weeks are so perplexing. It's not perplexing. This is him There's not been a year in his career that hasn't had a least a few games like this But now he has a bare cupboard so it looks even worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, Joe said: It's not perplexing. This is him There's not been a year in his career that hasn't had a least a few games like this But now he has a bare cupboard so it looks even worse He is growing. Or maybe... evolving might be a better word. It used to be he could throw the long ball and not able to hit the short passes with regularity. As his short game has become better, he can't hit the broad side of a barn out 30 yards or more. And then there is the fact that he has not thrown an interception through the season's opening 5 games, after a career of being among the league leaders in that stat. This why I/we call it, "The Josh Allen Experience." Hopefully, there comes a season where he puts it all together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Still don't understand why they didn't burn a timeout to get Allen on the field for the 1st down play after the fumble recovery. Allen was racing towards the field. Somebody needs to stop that run play w/ Trubisky from happening. A TD there would've effectively sealed the game but they allowed themselves to play CFL style - only 2 real downs then a kick. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said: Some of this falls on Brady, who isn’t even bothering to scheme guys open anymore. That said, Josh did have his share of big misses today. You don’t go 9/30 and be blameless. Josh has a huge piece of blame for this and last game. That said, many wins are thanks to Josh. This many changes on the offense and we all knew there would be days like this. Well, maybe not exactly like this but you know what I mean. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Ann said: if he's hindered at all, put him on the bench and bring up Hamler. something is preventing Brady from actually using him of course, some play other than a behind the line swing pass might be a better option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 with all the plays Josh broke contain to his right, why no receiving option in short area running with him to give easy target? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterny Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, Fansince88 said: Josh has a huge piece of blame for this and last game. That said, many wins are thanks to Josh. This many changes on the offense and we all knew there would be days like this. Well, maybe not exactly like this but you know what I mean. IMO the recievers are big part of the problem. Allen is delivering balls where they catch them most of time and they don’t. Dropping them. IMO Also, IMO disappointed with kincaid expecting him to take the next step. Wasn’t point of drafting him to be like kittle, kelce, gates, Gonzalez type of tight end to give Allen security blanket. Beside Allen cook and kincaid should be stars. Cook has demonstrated so far waiting on Kincaid. Just my opinion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 This loss is worse than last weeks. I was befuddled at the trick play decision..i am completely nonplussed at the decisions on the last possession in this game. No excuse for any of it. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 32 minutes ago, Foxx said: He is growing. Or maybe... evolving might be a better word. It used to be he could throw the long ball and not able to hit the short passes with regularity. As his short game has become better, he can't hit the broad side of a barn out 30 yards or more. And then there is the fact that he has not thrown an interception through the season's opening 5 games, after a career of being among the league leaders in that stat. This why I/we call it, "The Josh Allen Experience." Hopefully, there comes a season where he puts it all together. I wonder if that's coaching too...if, as his QB coaches get promoted to OC, the new QB coaches are less and less willing to smack Josh on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and say "No! Bad Josh!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirminThurman Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 55 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Just for fun, what is the open rate for Coleman this season? through 4 games: 20 wins on 83 pass routes run (24.1% gross win rate) yielding 11 targets (9 catchable) or a catchable target every 9.2 routes run Nabors for comparison: 64 wins on 150 pass routes run (42.6% gross win rate) yielding 52 targets (42 catchable) or a catchable target every 3.5 routes run 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterny Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) Take a read on this about the hit on allen https://x.com/ChrisNowinski1/status/1843026580739969200 Edited October 6 by Rochesterny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker 2.0 Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 3 minutes ago, SquirminThurman said: through 4 games: 20 wins on 83 pass routes run (24.1% gross win rate) yielding 11 targets (9 catchable) or a catchable target every 9.2 routes run Nabors for comparison: 64 wins on 150 pass routes run (42.6% gross win rate) yielding 52 targets (42 catchable) or a catchable target every 3.5 routes run It’s not really constructive to compare Coleman’s production with Malik Nabers’. Compare him with receivers drafted between 28 and 34. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 43 minutes ago, Taro T said: Still don't understand why they didn't burn a timeout to get Allen on the field for the 1st down play after the fumble recovery. Allen was racing towards the field. Somebody needs to stop that run play w/ Trubisky from happening. A TD there would've effectively sealed the game but they allowed themselves to play CFL style - only 2 real downs then a kick. As it was, the entire stadium knew the play call. Running the ball is great, but loses effectiveness when it’s predictable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterny Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said: It’s not really constructive to compare Coleman’s production with Malik Nabers’. Compare him with receivers drafted between 28 and 34. Good point reason one went to first round and why the other went second round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirminThurman Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 18 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said: It’s not really constructive to compare Coleman’s production with Malik Nabers’. Compare him with receivers drafted between 28 and 34. its more fair to compare him to guys playing out of the slot? why don't I compare him to a TE or RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 34 minutes ago, SquirminThurman said: through 4 games: 20 wins on 83 pass routes run (24.1% gross win rate) yielding 11 targets (9 catchable) or a catchable target every 9.2 routes run Nabors for comparison: 64 wins on 150 pass routes run (42.6% gross win rate) yielding 52 targets (42 catchable) or a catchable target every 3.5 routes run Is the back of the helmet considered catchable? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy In Pants Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) You could tell Allen was aggravated last week. He was aggravated again this week. He could be having some doubts about his coaches. Players have those doubts. Especially when it’s the same song and dance, which is has been for the last few years. Also; his receivers and he don’t seem to be on the same page all the time. Josh makes mistakes in the heat of the moment. The game is much faster for players than it is for us or coaches. I’ll overlook a players mistakes in light of situations a lot more than I do for management. We still have a management problem. Edited October 6 by The Guy In Pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllen Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, The Guy In Pants said: You could tell Allen was aggravated last week. He was aggravated again this week. He could be having some doubts about his coaches. Players have those doubts. Especially when it’s the same song and dance, which is has been for the last few years. Josh makes mistakes in the heat of the moment. The game is much faster for players than it is for us or coaches. I’ll overlook a players mistakes in light of situations a lot more than I do for management. We still have a management problem. If we had our full team playing, we win this game. Josh isn't Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers he isn't going to rock the boat just yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy In Pants Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, JoshAllen said: If we had our full team playing, we win this game. Josh isn't Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers he isn't going to rock the boat just yet. I don’t think he ever would. I don’t think he has the personality to do it. He’s a very down to earth guy who seems like he wants to be good to everyone. I could be wrong. We could have one this game 3 times today. But it just didn’t happen and it’s aggrevating that we have had teams capable of winning it all the last few years and we can’t close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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